Wipe out those split tears because we are going to explain to you that love is not a lie! This week there is Autostraddle editor and all of around icon
Heather Hogan
speaing frankly about their 11 year(!!) connection along with her wife as well as situations longterm connections.

But initially! We enjoy getting reunited — after an eventful summertime! — and play a game title of guess the program from the fanfic.


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ if you should be an A+ member, you can read
this substantial crossover fanfic
the Autostraddle TV staff together blogged,  like the Buffy/Faith/Nia Nal threesome I concocted.

+ among the first pieces we typed for Autostraddle was
this essay about season certainly

Fleabag.

+ one more reason become an A+ member: this
unique view Heather and Stacy’s marriage!

+ I like communication but
as Vanessa outlined right here
there was such a thing as excessive control.

+ if you like another check out my personal mindset that just because an union concludes doesn’t mean it was not significant,
see my favorite article
I actually ever created.



Heather:

We stayed the actual entire night, that’s merely so off character for both of us. And I believe it was simply, it’s really indicative your commitment, In my opinion, where it had been like, that is amazing. Let’s just do the following point. This is so fun. Why don’t we simply do the next matter. And that I genuinely believe that’s just been how all of our commitment’s been for like 11 decades. Each step has just already been like, “This part’s fantastic. What’s the the next thing we can easily do?” So, yeah.


Theme tune performs


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

And That I’m Christina.


Drew:

And thank you for visiting,

Hold off, Is It a romantic date?


Christina:


Wait, Is This a night out together?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast dedicated to the burning concern: wait, is this a night out together? In which Drew and that I find all kinds of things about internet dating. Understanding matchmaking, somethingn’t matchmaking. And extremely only have a grand adventure, I would state.


Drew:

I would also claim that this has been a huge adventure thus far and certainly will are. I am Drew Gregory. I am a writer for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And that I wish to have something totally new to add to the combine. I never ever can think about any such thing brand new. In my opinion those tend to be my identities.


Christina:

Occasionally identification does not transform, despite exactly what TikTok will tell you.


Drew:

I’m Jewish.


Christina:

Yeah. What I’m Saying Is like—


Drew:

Sort of. I am talking about, yeah. No, I am not spiritual, but that is in addition element of my personal identification. You can easily inform from my personal hair.


Christina:

Containingn’t changed however, perhaps.


Drew:

That I’m Jewish?


Christina:

Yeah. You’ve been Jewish.


Drew:

No, I’ve been Jewish. Yeah, that failed to occur between your two episodes. Well, that are you, Christina?


Christina:

I’m Christina. I am additionally an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual on the net. I am truly looking towards the introduction of Princess Diana season, AKA motorcycle short pants and sweatshirts. That is where i am wanting to end up being. I’m in Philadelphia, therefore it is 96 levels today. So we’re gradually acquiring there. It’s just like I want it at this time. It really is my perfect time. I would like to end up being a main character for the fall, and it’s maybe not occurring but.


Drew:

Yeah. Well, what is actually exciting you are revealing just now is, so in regards to our listeners, it has been per week since our finally occurrence, that is just what it usually is actually. But also for all of us, we in fact recorded the first six attacks while we happened to be locating the vocals and developing this brand new podcast. We recorded that beforehand, the good news is we are quite current. So this is like we have now had a whole summer time. Therefore we haven’t taped in several months therefore’ve already been up to all kinds of things


Christina:

Uncharted area. The last time we taped, we’dn’t fulfilled. We’ve met physically.


Drew:

That is correct! Yes!


Christina:

Drew was in my personal ding, dang house, just going out.


Drew:

Yes!


Christina:

I might only wake-up and become want, “Well, appear, which is Drew over there.”


Drew:

So good.


Christina:

It actually was really delightful.


Drew:

You have got such a gorgeous house.


Christina:

Thank you so much. Its a gay turmoil home so we think it’s great very dearly. Yeah. Therefore we’re merely on another journey and it is truly interesting getting taking place this enterprise with the audience. Will we have anything you want to pontificate when it comes to before we have into our little video game?


Drew:

What i’m saying is, I don’t know. I Experienced a big summer time, but I Assume circumstances will come right up once the episodes come along, but…


Christina:

Yeah, I don’t want you to weight it all right in front.


Drew:

You do not need me to spoil any such thing?


Christina:

Yeah. Load it all in the front? My personal God, exactly what a horrible phrase.


Drew:

It sounded a little bit intimate, but I Must Say I had more of a looked at want—


Christina:

It performed!


Drew:

I imagined more though that you are currently making Residence Depot and happened to be like engaging in your car, which I understand there is no need, but which was also where my personal brain is, that also may be intimate.


Christina:

I additionally merely love that thing which is keeping myself from attending Home Depot is actually a motor vehicle and never the actual person who I am. Like everytime I’ve been at a property Depot, some body has-been like, “Ma’am have you been missing? Are you secure right here?” And that I’m want, “No, honestly. A whole lot wood about. I am not secure.” Thus I have actually a game title for Drew because we want to play video games.


Drew:

I am paying attention.


Christina:

And I also determined, throughout respect of myself and our guest, that would end up being a little intro in to the field of fanfic for Drew. So what i’ve completed is actually I taken five programs from Drew’s preferred Characters in tv number, I am also gonna study you some labels from AO3’s fanfiction and you are likely to need to guess which on the shows these tags tend to be talking about. I shall start basic, they are going to acquire more particular towards program as we go along.


Drew:

Okay. I Simply involve some questions—


Christina:

Naturally you are doing.


Drew:

Because I don’t know a large number towards fanfic world. Thus every tv show has actually terms which can be involving that demonstrate?


Christina:

Yes.


Drew:

That selection in specificity, i might picture?


Christina:

Yes. Yes, they actually do.


Drew:

Therefore should you wished to discover a reveal that had like, I don’t know, medieval occasions you can hit the medieval tag.


Christina:

I’ll claim that I didn’t find any medieval times labels in virtually any of these shows. Like to see it.


Drew:

Well, that is not my personal taste, but I became simply tossing anything out.


Christina:

Yes.


Drew:

Because I guess in my own head, I found myself like, oh, well, if you find yourself reading fanfic, you are searching for demonstrates that have figures you would like. But that is not always the way it is. Often you are just looking for a topic and after that you can learn programs from the fanfic?


Christina:

You might. That could be an unusual option to address fanfic because most folks treat it understanding the ship obtained planned. Then they say, I want to review probably an alternative world form of this fanfic. Perhaps I would like some harm comfort. Maybe i would really like a slow burn. Possibly I just desire some straight-up smut. There’s lots of places which individuals go. And then there is also only extra labels, telling you the type of flavor and feeling of story. And in addition wewill get taste and ambiance. Because demonstrably ships will give it away and an alternative market isn’t specifically useful per the tv show, so weare going to end up being particular toward tv show.


Drew:

Okay, cool. Let us hop involved with it.


Christina:

All right.


Drew:

Let’s learn with each other. Yeah.


Christina:

Okay. Your first one. We are going to focus on imaginary politics, praise kink, abandonment issues, extremely slow burn.


Drew:

Praise kink, political… imaginary politics?


Christina:

Fictional politics, yes.


Drew:

Does that mean like politics being grounded during the real world, but they are imaginary or entirely imaginary politics?


Christina:

I’ven’t read the fic under consideration, but I’m assuming it means completely imaginary politics.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

We could keep going.


Drew:

Yeah, keep going.


Christina:

History abuse, harmed comfort, I wanted smooth what to live and so do you. Hilarious label. Merely was required to read this 1.


Drew:

Okay, wait. Maybe i will take the next and consider what the best programs are. Okay. Because i am trying to think of the demonstrates have politics in them. Oh hold off, could it possibly be

The L Term?


Christina:

This isn’t

The L Keyword.

No.


Drew:

Because that does have fake politics.


Christina:

It will.


Drew:

Because Bette runs for mayor. I am not sure in the event that you just remember that ,.


Christina:

Oh, i actually do.


Drew:

Okay, let’s see. The Other…

Vida

provides politics.


Christina:


Vida

features politics.


Drew:

Will it be

Vida?


Christina:

Unfortuitously,

Vida

do not have any fanfics.


Drew:

Oh, what?


Christina:

I’m sure. So folks, get to it.


Drew:

Individuals, can get on that. I’d read that fanfic.


Christina:

Men and women, get to it.


Drew:

Okay. Let’s see. The Other…


Christina:

I could continue.


Drew:

Keep working. Yeah.


Christina:

Cat and mouse. Possessive behavior.


Drew:

Oh, oh,

Killing Eve.


Christina:

There you go.


Drew:

Cat and mouse got me personally. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it’s all clicking. It is all clicking.


Christina:

Almost everything clicks. All of it presses. It absolutely was additionally a challenge because I had to find people that have been particular enough to the show, but additionally like, it could surprise you to know there are plenty of praise kink circumstances on the market.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

The same as a ton. Just like a bunch.


Drew:

I believe that. I really like our very own society.


Christina:

I am aware. One of these is not on your a number of favorite television shows and/or favored TV characters because several of your chosen TV shows didn’t have fics, that was sad.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

But it is a program we’ve got talked about quite a bit and I believe you will get it.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

At some point. It is gonna be so easy for your family, I believe.


Drew:

Oh, Jesus. Stress.


Christina:

Male friendship. Emotionally repressed.


Drew:


Appearing?


Christina:

No.


Drew:


Ted Lasso?


Christina:

Yep. Yep.


Drew:

Like, exactly what reveals do we enjoy with men? Okay, let’s take to the gay any. Nope. Why don’t we attempt the straight one.


Christina:

Yeah, the other any would end up being “team connecting” and that I was like, that’s an easy one. There is an easy one. Okay. Let’s see. Canon personality death, LGBTQ fictional character of shade. There’s a tongue twister for you. Families of choice. Mommy girl commitment.


Drew:


Awareness 8?


Christina:

No. In the area, I would personally state. I might say for the reason that zone.


Drew:


Pose?


Christina:

Yeah. The second any was going to end up being canon gender work, so — okay, we’ve two even more.


Drew:

Okay. I enjoy it.


Christina:

Jealousy. I am scared of your after that occurrence because I do not trust the experts. A literal label about this fic. Famous.


Drew:

Okay. I am talking about, I really don’t think

Glee

is found on my number, but that is the thing I would very first imagine.


Christina:

It is not

Glee.

Really don’t think

Glee

had been on many databases.


Drew:

It’s not.


Christina:

But amusing point. Ex-lovers to pals back again to fans trope, household feels, friendship. An extended awaited reunion.


Drew:

Ex-lovers to friends straight back. Is it

The L phrase?


Christina:

It is

The L word.


Drew:

Okay. I was like, ex-lovers to buddies to ex… Yeah, the ex-lovers.


Christina:

The unfortunate most important factor of

The L word

fanfic may be the staggering level of Bette Tina fanfic can be like, y’all demand to…


Drew:

You are aware, I think we possibly may have a justification to get involved with this later. That’s a little tease for the main subject.


Christina:

Okay. Anxiety.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Bittersweet ending.


Drew:


Freaks and Geeks?


Christina:

Close — no, maybe not near. I do not need to lay to you personally.


Drew:

I’m not sure why. I recently took a jab at angst and bittersweet closing. That’s merely kind of my thing.


Christina:

Yeah. That is correct. Which is most evident. Romance (very sad). Which is in parentheses, the very sad.


Drew:

And it is perhaps not

The Leftovers.


Christina:

It is not

The Leftovers.

I’m not probably provide this-


Drew:

Okay. I’m going to be able to get this. Thus anxiety.


Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Drew:

Bittersweet ending.


Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.


Drew:

Romance, extremely unfortunate.


Christina:

Unresolved intimate stress.


Drew:

This really is all. This is simply me personally. This is certainly like everything. This may you should be everything.


Christina:

Yeah, thanks for visiting fanfic, girl.


Drew:

Ooh. After all, wow. What a welcome.


Christina:

Pining is yet another one.


Drew:

Just how is it in identical family? Okay, hold off, allow me to remember reveals that Everyone loves which can be gay and have an angst. Pining.


Christina:

I am going to say this tv series is not gay.


Drew:

Oh.


Christina:

But it is a demonstrate that i understand you love.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

Would you like the one thatshould give it out?


Drew:

I do think we should instead can get on together with the podcast—


Christina:

I really do.


Drew:

But if it was simply you and i love hanging out as buddies, i might be like, no, no, no, offer me a half hour. But okay, give myself the only.


Christina:

Blasphemy, spiritual stress.


Drew:


Fleabag.


Christina:

Here it’s.


Drew:

Truth be told there its.

Fleabag

is a reveal that given that many insane tradition around it’s got gone out and it’s nothing like every one of these annoying individuals characters, i am like, amazing tv show.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Simply a good program.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Exactly what the, fantastic tv system. That was lots of fun. Thank you.


Christina:

Anytime.


Drew:

And I’d love to simply make a public-service… No, that is not what it is. Exactly like a request to people that i would like some

Vida

fanfic. I will see clearly. I’m not sure exactly who i would like it to be between. Possibly it may be, what’s it known as when it is like two… We performed this. We performed this within the television staff. We did like a cross… What’s the word for it? What is actually it if it is like numerous programs?


Christina:

Yeah. Cross… Cross… That thing. I know what you are claiming. I can not think about the phrase. We can easily deliver all of our guest in. I am aware they are aware the word.


Drew:

Okay. We will go into the significant topic we can make all of our guest so her head doesn’t explode as she’s trying to inform us this term. Guest, do you want to introduce yourself?


Heather:

Yes. Hello, this might be Heather Hogan. I am an Autostraddle publisher and publisher. And often once I tune in to this podcast, I perform along like it’s a game title tv show when y’all are trying to do your own video games. It was very difficult for me are quiet although this was occurring.


Christina:

I became like, this is gonna be really enjoyable, but it’s also will be so very hard for me for this and Heather you should be hushed.


Heather:

Yeah. My personal favorite so far has-been, “Who mentioned It: Drew or Sappho?”


Christina:

Thank you.


Heather:

And that I was actually undoubtedly cheering like I was on

The Cost Is Correct.

I happened to be love, “Christina, no its Drew! Its Drew! It’s Drew! No, it really is Sappho!” Nevertheless did fantastic. You didn’t also require my personal assistance at that game.


Christina:

Re-listening compared to that one, I was enjoy, well, damn i recognize my friends slash i suppose the written text of Sappho.


Heather:

You did well.


Drew:

You smashed it. In addition went through… To make sure the game worked, I attempted it on a number of individuals. Some people who do understand me much better than you will do, Christina, and they all couldn’t do it. Thus I was actually really satisfied by you.


Christina:

Feels like i am successful, basically all of that matters.


Drew:

Heather, tell us exactly what that term is for our very own fanfiction.


Heather:

It is simply crossover.


Christina:

It really is a crossover, yeah!


Drew:

Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I imagined there was clearly some fancy term for this. But anyways, if someone else wants to write

Vida

fanfic which is a crossover, it really is something different that I adore. I’d like to see more of it. So all of our main subject this week isn’t fanfic. Really long-term relationships. Because, Heather, how much time are you currently in your existing connection?


Heather:

I have been using my wife for 11 years.


Drew:

Oh, that’s a long time.


Christina:

Drew, have you ever accomplished everything consistently for 11 years? Because We undoubtedly haven’t.


Drew:

No, not gender. I haven’t completed such a thing. Exactly what have I {done|completed|acco
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